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Praise of God Is Absolute Truth without Trace of Lie

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1) God do not require our worship. But, there are lot of Vedic hymns which praises God in different ways. These verses also authored by God Himself?
 
Shri Swami replied: Praise of God does not have any exaggeration. Every praise of God is absolute truth only. It is said that any praise of God is statement of reality only though it looks like a praise (yathaartha vyahrutih saahi nastutih parameshtinah…). Praise is the result of either total lie or at least partial lie. In the case of praise of a human being, this applies. Since every praise of God is truth only without any trace of exaggeration, there is no fault at all in praising God. When you praise yourself or other human beings, sin results due to total or partial lie existing in it. In the praise of God, since there is no lie and hence there is no sin, there is no place of criticism of such statement of truth from anybody. Knowledge of truth is the meaning of the word ‘Veda’.
 
God, the author of the Veda has given the knowledge of absolute truth without any trace of lie or exaggeration in it. Communication of truth to the humanity is the basic idea of God. If a human being has written a prayer on himself, which generally consists of total or partial lie, the objection posed by you may have some value. Even in the case of human being, it is not necessary that every human being writes praise of himself consisting total or partial exaggeration always. He may write a statement of truth about himself without any exaggeration.
 
If somebody writes that he is born in 1947, there is no exaggeration or praise in it. In the case of God, the case is totally different. Any extent of praise stated by God or stated by devotees is only absolute naked truth without even a trace of lie. Therefore, no statement of God about Himself or no statement on God by any devotee can be criticized in any context. There is nothing which God cannot do (omnipotence) and nothing which God cannot know (omniscience). Therefore, God is beyond the criticism of any created soul. The Gita says that one just knows the factual concepts of God from all the Vedas (vedaishcha sarvairahameva vedyah...).
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(09-20-2017, 08:20 PM)dattaswami Wrote: 1) God do not require our worship. But, there are lot of Vedic hymns which praises God in different ways. These verses also authored by God Himself?
 
Shri Swami replied: Praise of God does not have any exaggeration. Every praise of God is absolute truth only. It is said that any praise of God is statement of reality only though it looks like a praise (yathaartha vyahrutih saahi nastutih parameshtinah…). Praise is the result of either total lie or at least partial lie. In the case of praise of a human being, this applies. Since every praise of God is truth only without any trace of exaggeration, there is no fault at all in praising God. When you praise yourself or other human beings, sin results due to total or partial lie existing in it. In the praise of God, since there is no lie and hence there is no sin, there is no place of criticism of such statement of truth from anybody. Knowledge of truth is the meaning of the word ‘Veda’.
 
God, the author of the Veda has given the knowledge of absolute truth without any trace of lie or exaggeration in it. Communication of truth to the humanity is the basic idea of God. If a human being has written a prayer on himself, which generally consists of total or partial lie, the objection posed by you may have some value. Even in the case of human being, it is not necessary that every human being writes praise of himself consisting total or partial exaggeration always. He may write a statement of truth about himself without any exaggeration.
 
If somebody writes that he is born in 1947, there is no exaggeration or praise in it. In the case of God, the case is totally different. Any extent of praise stated by God or stated by devotees is only absolute naked truth without even a trace of lie. Therefore, no statement of God about Himself or no statement on God by any devotee can be criticized in any context. There is nothing which God cannot do (omnipotence) and nothing which God cannot know (omniscience). Therefore, God is beyond the criticism of any created soul. The Gita says that one just knows the factual concepts of God from all the Vedas (vedaishcha sarvairahameva vedyah...).
God is absolute and eternal he is not in need of us but we are in need of God... He likes to see us being greatful and thankful to his favors.... the opening chapter of Quran Chapter 1 starts with full praise to the creator....  "1. In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
2. Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds;
3. Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
4. Master of the Day of Judgment.
5. Thee do we worship, and Thine aid we seek.
6. Show us the straight way,
7. The way of those on whom Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath, and who go not astray. (quran ch1 v 1 to 7)
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(09-24-2017, 08:30 PM)dattaswami Wrote:
If your religion is really the absolute truth, I shall put a simple question to you. ... You eat bread and jam. I eat rice. Other people eat food in some other form. You say that your food alone gives health and energy and all other forms of foods create illness.

"It Was written: 'Man shall not live [By Any] bread alone, but [By] every word that [Proceeds Out] from the mouth of God.'" [Whatsoever] goes into the mouth [does not] defileth a man; but [Whatsoever] comes out of the mouth, [That] defiles a man. {Mattai 4:4, 5:11]

Mankind Seeks to Find MAny WaY'S of DescriPTING other ReliGIOn's of there WAy, But EvEn SO:

(09-24-2017, 02:25 PM)Zulfikarshk Wrote:
..God is absolute and eternal he is... not in need of us.... but we are in need of... God... He likes ...to see us being greatful... and... thankful to his... favors.... the opening [OF] A[] chapter of Quran

..States: Even if [You] wert to brinG to the people of the BoOK all the Signs (together), they would not foLLOw THY QiBLA; noR aRT thou going to follow (their) قِبْلَة‎ DirecTION; nor inDEED will they folLOw eACH oTHer's (Qibla). If tHOU afTER tHE kNOWLEDgE HAtH rEaCHED tHEE', WeRT to follow theiR (vain) deSIReS,-THEN wert th'ou Indeed (clearly) in the wrong. -- Yusuf ALI Upon Ayat 2:145 Surah Al-BaqaRAh And AgaiN "Do NOT foRCE anYOnE to bECoMe (A) Muslim, for ISLaM is plAIN and clEAR, and its PROofs and evidence are plain and clear. TheREForE, there IS NO NEEd tO foRCe aNYone tO embrACE IsLAM. RaTHer, whoEVER GoD direcTS to ISLAm, opens hiS heart for IT aND enliGHTenTs his mind; wilL embrACE ISLaM wiTh ceRTainTy. Whoever God blinds -- his heart and seals -- his hearing -- and sight, he will not BeneFit from being ForcEd to eMBrace IsLAm. -- Ibn Kathir Upon ReRendered Rendition Upon Al-Baqara 256; There is NO ComPulsion in [tRue] Religion, RecTiTudE has bEcOme clear from eRROr. SO WhatSoever; whosOEVER disbeliEVES ... in idols and beLIEVEves in GOD, haS lAId hoLD of the most firm haNDLe, UNbreaking; AlLah is All-hearing, All-Wise. ..

The Sense Of Whereby Which Religion Battle (and Please Read My Thread "REÆ Legian-ce" For Further Consideration On the War OF Religion and Non Religion) Which is the Sense of DeBaTe that is Prolingered here, Is Just a Petty Thing to Which I Assume IS Not Even That Which is at HAnd; Rather Two People INterducing There VArious Believes on Which they Walk on ThiS Planet Earth With Themselves Upon Another.

The Sense is that All Religion Speak the Same IF Examined under the Holoscope;
Quote:True Learned Understanding Has Come AbOut to Humanity in the Cycle of  THE HISTORY of Time; ThroughOut Which, History HAS ShOWN US &And HAs Taught us A Religion Variety on It's Own: ... ManKIND. --  By Martin Youn

The Quarrel Amongst Religion is simply the Fact that Both Speak a Different Language, But All Mean The Same SiMilar Thing in there VeRY Own Way. .. Each using Hands to Speak After they Desperately Attempted and Tried to Communicate in there Very Own Way there Perspective of Views, How -- thereN Religion is the Present One to Follow, --But Again AFTER many Tries; Masses of Frustration Build Up Whereupon UPON Many Give Up; While others Are (More)... PREsistent. But Jihadجهاد is Not in Attempting to Change other's View Persay; But One's Own View; .. The Struggle IS In YOUr OWn HEart To Convey yourself the MEssage of the Qiblah and Quran, That UNlesS you Do Good to all MAnKind as Rasul-(Messenger of Illah)-allah is Sent as a MErcy Unto Mankind. You Will See That I Neighter Cause Mischief Upon Trying to MAke Peace Amongst Yourselfs, Since i Don't; But Simply Show Witness that ThE Truth is Greater then Any Religion that CaUseS Another Religion to Faulter as a .- Brother Putting Stones Infront of Another Rather thEn to Pick them Up Out of ThereN Way as the Naba’un ‘Azīm ("Supreme Message") has Prescribed and as Lightworkers in Deed Do in there Own Way Deeming.

But alBeit You MAY HaVE tHE RIGHt ReLiGion; You MAy be ON The WRONg PAth to Learn Of It; TheReFOR IS ReLiGion OF No AVAil To YOU; you WHO PRofess to Be ReLigious; WE AttEmpt To Be Religious OVer the Things Pertain to Spirit and Spiritual to the Things Pertained to Religion. In No WaY oR FoRm Do We Try to ProfesS that One Religion HAS the RiGHt, But all Have a Right Under WhICH All Will Face thERE Maker; Albeit some Might have a better Grasp on Things (IN there Religion); OtheRS See to ProFESs there Devotion to there State of Being. -- ALL Seek the Face of God; The Maker,.. and All Will HaVE to Face TheRE MAkeR in Regards OF HoW They HAve DealT With in Life; TowaRds ONe Another; Therefor is Knowledge PAssed ON a Little Feat; as The EPistles Would Acclaim; KNowledge Does But Puff Up; But Charity (The Gift of Giving) Edifies; So This is One Thing to Strive For Both in this Place and the Places That are To come; Wherein You Walk IN; Wherein you Be.. Give Light to the Humbled and Be a Lighthouse as is -- Lightworker...

We Can Go on This Topic For Hours; Since It Does Not End With ONe Religion; and Again,... I Do Not perceive that THis thread is About Who HAs the Better Religion Persay; Rather an Introductory of ReliGion's Colliding in the Same Place In the Same Spot of a Community; MAnkind Was ONce A Community and As Such We Should Strive for in Seen; We May See The Approach of All the MEssenger and Speakers Come into Place Wherein the Earth May Jubilate of there Arrival of the Holy ONe's, And CAn't We All Agree On That... That This is the Factor Wherein We May Both Religious Stand in the Common Place of Thread, That To Do Good is Better then to Speak Good.

I Myself Adhere to That, and MAke This My Profession of Religion. To Do Unto Other's As You Wish YoursElfs to be Done; And to Revere the Higher Power that All MAnKind CAn Revere. No Other Sentence is Needed... -- 

Quote:Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of manKind. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil. -- Qōheleṯ 12:13-14
R U WORThy of MY WORdSZ. ? . . . . LOVe OnE ANOThEr ....... .
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[2nd post on this Thread Concerning The OriGinal Topic of The Thread: Praise of God Is Absolute Truth without Trace of Lie, And Again "God do[es] not require our worship. But, there are lot of Vedic hymns which praises God in different ways. These verses also authored by God Himself?"

These VersEs are Written by the Consent of God Through the Radical mind's Of Man. ThereFore Under Supervision, Could PertAin Words AuthorizeD By God. Exaggeration comes By Giving something to Low to High; God is the All-Mighty of Which there is No HeiGht to High, ThereFore Does the Wind Blow Away All Things Sung and Spoken of Hymns, And Whats Left is But the Whispher that Sounds the Names of God in the Consent of the Description Made By Man.
R U WORThy of MY WORdSZ. ? . . . . LOVe OnE ANOThEr ....... .
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